Mourning Losses of 2008

by Kirk Kinder on July 21, 2010

Here is an article written by Eileen Ambrose of the Baltimore Sun that features some comments from me. Essentially, Eileen talked with Andrew Lo, a professor at MIT, where he compared investors’ behavior with the five stages of grief. He believes we are in the fourth stage of depression. Next, he believes acceptance will follow.

While his analysis is interesting, I see a different dynamic among investors, which was briefly detailed in the article. I think it is more fatigue, and it expands beyond the 2008 downturn. It goes back to 2000. We have had two grizzly bear markets in a short time frame that is weighing on investors. Even worse, economic conditions are worse today than before either of those bear markets if you look at employment, lending, housing prices, etc.

Part of the fatigue stems from investor behaviors. Many investors were too aggressive in 1999 and 2000, and they got murdered by the markets. Many capitulated and went to cash in 2002 or 2003 just to see the market rise dramatically. Once they reentered the markets, we got 2008. A large percentage of these investors were “advised” by planners so they have zero trust in the system.

While I think Professor Lo’s thesis is interesting, I don’t think he has quite addressed the entire landscape. I also fear that the next few years will see more roller coaster markets. Eventually, investors will no longer even think about equities and valuations will reset to secular lows. Then it will be the time to invest and feel the market’s tailwind.

  • @Pakerberg,

    This is so true. This fatigue will probably continue until the US leaves the secular bear behind. Maybe we have left it behind, but at current valuations, I highly doubt it. Of course, the good news is once we do enter a secular bull market, returns are much higher than historical norms. And, we have had ten years of a secular bear so far so we are hopefully on the tail end of the bear.
  • Pakerberg
    Fatigue from worry and hypervigilence - absolutely true in our case. The lost decade took away our hopes for and ability to retire with any sense of stability. Your description of being "advised" into maximum losses is so right on. And just like the wall street brokers, the investment bankers, and mortgage brokers, the so called advisors reaped benefit from our losses!
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